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Taiy Plon
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Post by Taiy Plon »

Okay, so most everyone here agrees that anime is "Japanese Cartoons," but i have gotten into constant arguments as what anime can and cannot be. Some people beleive there is such things as "Russian Anime," or anime has to be hand-drawn. What do you guys think??? :D

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In my opinion, anime is any sort of animation made in Japan. This can be computer animated, hand-drawn, anything (as long as it is made in japan). Then there are the styles of the characters (i.e. proportions, fighting styles, motion, etc.) that most show up once you've made it clear that it is made in japan. if all things check out, it is an anime.
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Post by tsubame_03 »

at first when i heard the word "anime" my first opinion is that it is a shorter version of the word "animation"...

my other opinion would be animes are cartoons only that the characters and backgrounds are drawn in a unique way that they look almost a little realistic... :D
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Post by shuichi_uesugi »

The word anime comes from the french word "anime" which is a direct root of the words animated comics. You can look it up in a french dictionary so therefore you are able to Bulgarian anime if you wanted. The direct term for japanese anime is manga. Duh!!!
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Post by Kyle Bloodheart »

In the US, the word "Anime" refers to Japanese cartoons, and to some extent Korean cartoons. It doesn't refer to whether the cartoon is hand drawn using cels, computer animated, or claymation.

Companies outside of Japan are using the "Anime" style more. Some of the companies are trying to cash in on the "Anime" market which has exploded over the past couple years into a mainstream market.
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Yeah, but then ya gotta think; Russian Anime. If you used the definition of anime, you would define "russian anime" as "Russian Japanese anime." i know that has been said somewhere else, but no one seems to care. The style of anime can make people look realistic, but more distorted (i.e. higher waistline, huge heads, etc.) I've read somewhere that the anime art style uses a more feminine look b/c this look constitutes beauty.

and Shuichi...i did look up anime...

dictionary.com says this:
Main Entry: Japanimation
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: a style of cartoon or animation made in Japan that focuses on futuristic themes and robotlike characters; also called anime
Etymology: Japan + (an)imation

I might not agree with the futureistic theme part, but everything else works with my opinion.

Another thing "shuichi"... YOU ARE NOT THE ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY ON ANIME, SO QUIT ACTING LIKE EVERYWHERE.a pres. of something does not mean they know everything about something.
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Here is another one of my "more than you really wanted to know" posts.

From AnimeNfo’s Anime 101
http://www.animenfo.com/animemenu.php
If you do a search on 'what is anime' or 'anime introduction' using a web search engine, you'll find tons of links and descriptions. What I am going to do here is to sum them up. So, what is anime? Anime is the most common word used by fans to refer to Japanese Animation.

Is anime the same as cartoon? Technically yes, however for anime fans, anime is not cartoon. See the definition above, anime refers to Japanese animation. So, the rule of thumb is as simple as: if it's not originated from Japan then it's not an anime (while the contrary is not true).

People usually think that anime is the animated version of japanese comic (manga). While in most cases this is true, however, not all anime is based on manga. For example, some anime are based on video games like Sakura Taisen and Tales of Eternia.



From Anime News Network.com’s Lexicon
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclo ... exicon.php
Japanese word for cartoon and animation. In Japan, "anime" refers to any and all animation or cartoon - regardless of the genre, style, or nation of origin. Outside of Japan the word "anime" has come to refer specifically to animation of Japanese origins. Because of this, it is pronounced the Japanese way: "a-nee-may".

While it is clear that the word anime derives from a western term, there is some debate as to its exact origin. One very common interpretation is that it comes from the French term for cartoon, "dessin animé", which translates literally to "animated drawing". However, others believe it's simply a contraction of the word "animation" as pronounced in English.

While the French origin is perhaps the most widely spread theory, it may simply be a myth related to the popularity of anime in France in the late 70s and the 80s which was so spectacular it even led to some French-Japanese co-productions. But animation in Japan has existed for longer than that, and the full word for animation there is アニメション (animeshon) which follows the English pronunciation, not the French one. Combined with the fact that Japanese have a habit of incorporating English words into their language much more often than other western languages, this makes a strong case that "anime" is actually the short form of the Japanization of the English word "animation".

See also: Japanimation, Manga



From the Anime Café’s encyclopaedia
http://www.abcb.com/ency/a/anime.htm

What Is Anime?

The term anime refers to a distinctive tradition of Japanese animation that is almost immediately recognizable by its superior artistic quality as well as by the somewhat mannered artistic conventions anime artists employ, such as the preference for child-like, large eyes. But it's not just the art that grabs one's attention.

In contrast to the flat, Good vs. Evil plots in U.S. cartoons, many anime stories deal with complex, thought-provoking themes, presenting complex characters that change as the stories progress. There's a ready acceptance of the reality of death. In some anime, even those intended for kids, main characters sometimes die. Although there's as much silliness and trash in anime as in any other popular medium, it's a fair generalization to say that it's a more intelligent genre than American cartoons. For anyone used to Disney's predictable plots and platitudes, one's first encounter with anime produces shock, followed by fascination. It's serious stuff.

Anime also provides a window into another culture. In ways that many anime fans scarcely guess, anime draws strongly from Japanese and wider Asian mythology and symbolism generally, and specifically from the rich Japanese traditions of Shinto, the martial arts, and Zen.

Perhaps that's one of the reasons anime deals so successfully with fantasy themes, as fans of Record of the Lodoss War, illustrated here, will readily attest. But there's more.

Responsible for some of the world's best technology at present, the Japanese seem to be out in front in another way, too: Thinking seriously about the implications of advanced technology.

Some of the most interesting anime explore the implications of technologies that blurs the distinctions between machine and person, male and female, good and evil, leaving the characters groping to find their moorings. In contrast to American explorations of advanced technology (as in Star Wars and the Terminator films), which subsume all the issues under the "absolute good vs. absolute evil" and "happy ending" tropes, anime deeply explores the moral and spiritual ambiguities of life and culture in a world pushed over the edge by rampaging technological progress.
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Post by Jovenitto »

Fantastic post, DarkLilly!!

Insightfull and "right on the money".

The technical difference between anime and other animated stuff, the origin of the "anime" term, and the difference in contents on anime and the other styles of animation.

To me, anime is simply a style... it speaks for itself.
That's why I love it so much!!!
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Dark Lilly wrote:blah :-s blah blah....
sooooo......ur saying everyone is right? It just depends on what they think (or what source they get it from)? I think i agree......

(Of course, i would more agree w/ AnimeNfo's definition of anime...)
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Post by Infinite Twilight »

Here's what I think:

Okay, so anime is the Japanese word for cartoon so technically it could be any sort of cartoon--American, Russian, whatever--but since it can be any type of cartoon what would be the point of calling it cartoon in Japanese? Because when we say 'anime' we're refering to Japanese cartoons. Just Japanese. If someone wants to go watch French cartoons, for example, and have a special name for it so people know it's French let them say 'cartoon' in French. Same goes for anything else.

So there, I've said what I think.
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Taiy Plon says: sooooo......ur saying everyone is right? It just depends on what they think (or what source they get it from)? I think i agree......

++Not exactly ... The general consensus of all three sources is that outside of Japan the word "anime" has come to refer specifically to animation of Japanese origins.

I also tend to agree with Anime Café’s assertion that the origin of the word"anime"is probably English rather than French.

Serious animation, in contrast to cartoons produced for the Saturday morning set, produced outside of Japan would most accurately be described as Russian, French or American animation.
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Yessss finally, someone not that agrees with me!!!! wohoo =D>
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well biside websters def it means what you want it to
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phantom wrote:well biside websters def it means what you want it to
yeah, i agree with that too, but how would you feel if someone was trying to tell you that HIS definition is THE one and ONLY definition. wouldn't that p*ss you off?

*cough* suichi *cough* *cough*
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I agree with Dark Lily. Anime is and isn't what you believ it is. I have hit this block many times in deffining to my mother that Anime are not cartoons, without bringing up the fact that Anime refers to Japanese animation, in just: cartoons. To me a "cartoon" is like the Sylevester and Tweety, Road runner scenarios that we grew up with. I mean how many anime's have you guys seen that fit those classic descriptions, probabaly not to many right? thatis is where I try to make my point but my mother always turns around and tells me that ehir a waste of my money because they are just drawings. Well THEN i get angree partly at her and partly at myself for not being the good little analzing book worm nerd and coming up with an explanation that uses lots of big words and stuff so that it sounds real impressive and gets her off my back. Geez Parents! So that is MY opinion. Everyone is entitled to one and Shuichi I know that having a good persnal opinion is something you should charish, just don't try and push yours on other people if they don't ask for it k, hun?
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