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re: marriage w/ conditions
Posted: Nov 27, 2005 9:15pm
by Raoul Duke
I've been going through the whole marriage thing too. I think it's because of me that you are Anna.

I made the marriage thread in OTD, and I did a whole heap of research about the origins of marriage today, just so I could win a debate, but it turns out that the guy I was going to be debating with (GRAVYTRAIN) just frickin gave up! Oh well.
My theory is that most men want their partner to be a virgin because they don't want the partner comparing them to someone previous. It's a way of hiding their own incompetance.
Personally I don't believe in marriage myself, but I don't care either way if my partner is a virgin or not.
re: marriage w/ conditions
Posted: Nov 27, 2005 9:18pm
by galfwend

u maybe right... depending on the country and their laws thougt
Re: re: marriage w/ conditions
Posted: Nov 27, 2005 9:50pm
by Kuroi Shinzou
Anner The Mad Hatter wrote:Agg!! I hate how people always think that it's alright for guys to have sex all the time, but it's such a big deal for girls to lose their virginity.
i dont get it, how is a girls loss of virginity more important than a guys? because they lose a layer of skin, that makes it more important than a guys first time?
because if its not that, then your saying its something emotional, saying that girls are more emotionaslly inclined about this loss of inocence, which is completlyly sexist
i "like" how people assume guys dont care about theyre first, just because they dont show it right out
re: marriage w/ conditions
Posted: Nov 27, 2005 9:52pm
by galfwend
good reply einstein
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Re: re: marriage w/ conditions
Posted: Nov 27, 2005 10:04pm
by Raoul Duke
black heart wrote:because if its not that, then your saying its something emotional, saying that girls are more emotionaslly inclined about this loss of inocence, which is completlyly sexist
gee, you didn't really make sense, but I think you were trying to say something silly then.
re: marriage w/ conditions
Posted: Nov 27, 2005 10:11pm
by Kuroi Shinzou
how does that not make sense?
to say a womans loss of viginity (or innocence) is more meaningful than a guys on an emotional level, is quite sexist (examples: guys are more inclined to anger than girls, or woman feel love stronger than men. are common, but sexist views)
Re: re: marriage w/ conditions
Posted: Nov 27, 2005 10:15pm
by Hey
black heart wrote:
i dont get it, how is a girls loss of virginity more important than a guys? because they lose a layer of skin, that makes it more important than a guys first time?
My point exactly. I understand how guys would rather be someone who...I don't know...who hasn't gotten around, lol, because they would like to think that she's like...untouched...and all theirs or something. And that's total bs. What about the guy himself? I'm sorry, but if a guy brings up virginity infront of me and starts to bash a girl for being a..ahem...hoe, I'd freak out, that is if he was a man-hoe himself, if not, then I wouldn't care.
And plus, like you said. I really can't see how virginity is so important. I have parents who wouldn't even imagine their daughters marrying someone not being virgins. lol, and I can't STAND IT! And it definetly shouldn't matter to the guy, heck, if a guy brings it up and tries to diss you girls, fire back and say, "what about you? would you say you're a man-hoe?".
Locke wrote:I've been going through the whole marriage thing too. I think it's because of me that you are Anna.
And Locke, you so totally did. Well, I was always intrested in that matter since I've a dad who believes the exact opposite of what I believe (mother too, but not as bad lol) so yeah. Same with religion really, and the whole God issue.
Locke wrote:
My theory is that most men want their partner to be a virgin because they don't want the partner comparing them to someone previous. It's a way of hiding their own incompetance.
lol! Wow, brave enough to come out and say it! I respect that deeply ma man.

re: marriage w/ conditions
Posted: Nov 27, 2005 10:15pm
by Hey
Woah...you two are quick.
Re: re: marriage w/ conditions
Posted: Nov 27, 2005 10:23pm
by Raoul Duke
black heart wrote:how does that not make sense?
It doesn't make sense because you lack the ability to type simple sentences in an coherent manner, and what it is you are trying to say is the type of thinking induced by the brainwashing of Christian fundamentalists.
Saying innocence is tantamount to virginity is very silly indeed.
Re: re: marriage w/ conditions
Posted: Nov 27, 2005 10:23pm
by Raoul Duke
black heart wrote:how does that not make sense?
It doesn't make sense because you lack the ability to type simple sentences in a coherent manner, and what it is you are trying to say is the type of thinking induced by the brainwashing of Christian fundamentalists.
Saying innocence is tantamount to virginity is very silly indeed.
re: marriage w/ conditions
Posted: Nov 28, 2005 3:25am
by Mai
"woman-activist sort of person, "
Feminist?

Re: re: marriage w/ conditions
Posted: Nov 28, 2005 12:53pm
by GravyTrain
galfwend wrote:
Yeah, I'm still trying to wrap my head around Nanaki's statement as well.
Locke wrote:and I did a whole heap of research about the origins of marriage today, just so I could win a debate, but it turns out that the guy I was going to be debating with (GRAVYTRAIN) just frickin gave up! Oh well.
I didn't give up, I just have nothing new to say.

Re: re: marriage w/ conditions
Posted: Nov 28, 2005 1:18pm
by Hey
Vanilla Ice wrote:"woman-activist sort of person, "
Feminist?

Errr,

yes. Thanks chica.
And I mean, how can I be when I love guys lol.
Re: re: marriage w/ conditions
Posted: Nov 28, 2005 1:33pm
by Cold Revolver
Locke wrote:black heart wrote:how does that not make sense?
It doesn't make sense because you lack the ability to type simple sentences in a coherent manner, and what it is you are trying to say is the type of thinking induced by the brainwashing of Christian fundamentalists.
Saying innocence is tantamount to virginity is very silly indeed.
Nice double post there Locke, it sure does get your point out in the open sure enough.

Re: marriage w/ conditions
Posted: Nov 28, 2005 1:36pm
by Chaotic reminder
galfwend wrote:do u mind if ur marrying a woman whose not anymore a virgin?? or she has already kidz or a man who married 12 times already like that.. u know what i mean
who gives a crap if someone is a virgin or not, im strickly non judgemently on those kinds of things
Re: marriage w/ conditions
Posted: Nov 28, 2005 1:51pm
by GravyTrain
Fallen Angel of Chaos wrote:galfwend wrote:do u mind if ur marrying a woman whose not anymore a virgin?? or she has already kidz or a man who married 12 times already like that.. u know what i mean
who gives a crap if someone is a virgin or not, im strickly non judgemently on those kinds of things
Yeah, and if you're not a virgin anymore and you're a girl, they now have corrective surgery for that.
